CFP National Championship:
Georgia vs TCU
Sunday, January 8, 2023
Inglewood, California, USA
SoFi Stadium
Coach Sonny Dykes
Coach Kirby Smart
Press Conference
THE MODERATOR: Good morning. Welcome to today’s
College Football Playoff national championship head
coaches news conference. We’re joined by TCU head
coach Sonny Dykes and Georgia head coach Kirby Smart.
Coach Dykes, we’ll start with an opening remark from you.
COACH DYKES: First of all, I want to thank you all for
being here and covering college football. And we’re all
really, really fortunate and blessed to have an opportunity
to work in this great game, Kirby and I as coaches and you
guys as the media.
Kirby and I both grew up sons — we’re both sons of
coaches. And I grew up reading articles and columns and
newspapers talking about football and my dad’s games and
other people’s games as a child. So we have a real
appreciation for what you guys do and how important you
are to college football and what makes this game so great.
And just want to thank you all for being here and covering
this event.
It’s been a heck of a week for us. This is obviously our first
time to be on a stage like this. And our players have really
responded well to the challenge of taking all this in,
because it’s new for us, and it’s unchartered territory for
most of our players.
You’ve heard me say this before, but we have four players
on our team that had ever participated in a bowl game
before this year’s Fiesta Bowl.
So bowl prep, playing in big games like this is new for
many of our guys, not necessarily new for TCU but
certainly for the players on our team.
So I’m really proud of the way they’ve handled everything.
I think that they have exceeded expectations in terms of
their ability to focus on what’s important and not get
distracted.
There’s so many opportunities to do that, obviously, with all
the things that are going on, especially being here in Los
Angeles.
So, it’s been a heck of a journey for these players.
I’ve been really proud of the way they’ve handled
everything. It’s a humble group. They know how blessed
they are to get a chance to go to TCU and to play football
at TCU and represent the Big 12 here in the national
championship game.
So it will be a big challenge for us. We know that.
Obviously Georgia’s a team that’s very, very talented. The
thing that I’ve found most impressive about them, however,
is how well-coached they are. Kirby and his staff do an
excellent job really in all three phases of the game.
They play hard, regardless of the score. And again, I think
that’s a big credit to their culture they have in their
program. And Coach Smart and his staff, I just have a ton
of respect for their football program and the way they do
things.
So we’re looking forward to Monday night. Know it’s going
to be a big challenge for us, but our guys have never
backed down for challenges and they have a lot of
confidence in themselves and our program and what we’re
trying to do. And we’ll go out and play good football
Monday night, see what happens.
THE MODERATOR: Coach Smart.
COACH SMART: A lot of the same sentiments as Coach
Dykes. Tremendous honor to be here, 130-something
teams start out trying to achieve this. And there’s two left.
And I think it speaks volumes to the character of both
teams, the way each team has been able to win football
games. I think so much is overrated about talent and what
so many people put into the game of football, when a team
cares about each other and they have a lot of intangibles
and really good players at the right positions, it makes for a
special group.
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And hearing the story of TCU’s season, getting to see
Coach Dykes at the Heisman; Max, you start looking
across the board, it’s a hell of a story for these two teams
to be playing each other.
And it’s an honor for us to be here. I’d like to say thanks to
the CFP committee and the CFP group that’s hosted us.
What a tremendous job they’ve done in LA to host our
players. I know over at our hotel, the players have enjoyed
the hospitality room. They’ve had an opportunity to be
together.
And we have the fortune of having a lot of guys last year
that left for the NFL but every one of those guys that left for
the NFL tell our players you better enjoy this moment
because it’s different at the next level. And these guys
have a special bond that they get to spend together.
There’s countless hours and minutes that these teams,
both of us, have spent preparing. It’s a long process to get
to the semifinal in terms of 28 or however many days, and
then you’ve got another 10. And you end up spending a lot
of time together through Christmas and through New
Year’s and through travel.
And our guys have really enjoyed that. I’ve enjoyed it.
That’s why we get into this business.
And what a great stage we get to play on Monday night.
And just honored to be here and represent the University of
Georgia.
THE MODERATOR: Questions.
Q. Kirby, for you, what is needed to maintain
excellence? Your former boss has been in this similar
situation, sitting up where you are now and has had to
explain it. I’m wondering if you could explain what is
needed to maintain excellence like your program has
over the last couple of years.
COACH SMART: A lot of hard work, standard, a belief in
the culture within it. It doesn’t start when the season starts.
It starts Tuesday when the season ends. And it just
continues.
I don’t know that you can relax and just say, okay, we’re
going to be fine. You have to make it happen. And I think
each and every year you have a different team.
Obviously recruiting plays a part of that. If you don’t have
good players, you’ve got no chance.
But a big part of that is the organization that I’ve been
given the ability to hire at University of Georgia. They are
second to none, my administration, of supporting us,
bringing in analysts, bringing in coaches, having the nice
facilities.
You need those things to be successful and sustain. But at
the end of the day, you better have buy-in with your
players. And I think the older I’ve gotten, the more I
acknowledge the relationship with the player matters much
more than maybe the play you call, than maybe the
practice habit you create, or anything else.
It’s will those players play hard for each other, and do they
believe in their coaching staff, that their coaching staff
cares for them. And that allows you to sustain.
Q. Coach Smart, what kind of challenges specifically
does the 3-3 stack present? And conversely, Coach
Dykes, the 12 personnel that Georgia stays in
offensively or has offensively, what kind of challenges
does that present?
COACH SMART: Coach Gillespie does a hell of a job. It
amazes me the job he does consistently even from Tulsa,
because, like I’ve talked about, we played Cincinnati a
couple years ago, and Tulsa by far and away did the best
job against Cincinnati. And we became enamored in that
when he was doing it then.
And it allows you to have more depth in your defense. It
allows you, when you play spread teams, you have more
speed on the field. There’s different layers to it, more
layers to it. They do a tremendous job.
Take all the scheme part out. It’s how you play and strike
people. When you watch them strike blocks with hat in
hands and the speed with which they play downhill and just
strike people, it’s a beauty. It’s a thing of beauty to myself
because I enjoy watching really good defense. And they
play it. And it’s very unique.
So when you go to prepare for it, it’s not as easy. It’s
different. Now, you could make a case in their league, they
may see some defenses like that, but I think the thing,
everybody says, everybody plays that defense in their
league. They’re not all the same. They’re not all the same.
And when you play another team in another conference,
you get to see their conference and see the defenses. And
people would say, well, everybody runs that in that league.
That’s not really true. And this is probably the most unique
and, in my opinion, played the best of all those defenses in
the conference.
COACH DYKES: I think the second part of the thing,
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asking about 12 personnel. You know what’s interesting
about 12 personnel, a lot of people run 12 personnel.
What you do is — this is something that, it’s something that
we’ve done in the past. I was a Mike Leach disciple, kind
of 10 personnel guy. That was something that Mike did
different was, to Cal’s offense, it was a lot of 20s and 21
personnel groupings.
And made it basically a 10 personnel offense and started
to play with tempo and all the things that kind of made
Mike’s version of the air raid different and unique.
As a young coach, I took a coordinator job at the University
of Arizona. And had a tight end named Rob Gronkowski
that was a pretty good player.
So it was like, okay, I’ve never played with a tight end. I
don’t even know what a tight end looks like. And this is
what he looks like.
So let’s figure out a way to get this guy the ball. So all of a
sudden we’re lining up in 11 personnel and some 12. And
the thing that’s different about it is, you know, you’ve got to
play eight gaps. Your run fits are much more complex,
how you’re going to get to them is much more difficult.
Now, from a run game perspective you’ve got to cover all
these gaps that you don’t necessarily have to cover without
the 12 personnel. So it just changes the way you approach
the game defensively.
Most people, when they go 12, they’re taking two good
players off the field and putting two average players on the
field. Well, Georgia certainly is the exception to that. Their
tight ends are exceptional. And they are — wide receivers
are like Rob; they’re wide receivers that are 270 pounds
and can block.
The thing that’s unique about those two tight ends is they
like to block. They’re physical-minded guys. They’re very
skilled receivers, but they play a tough brand of football.
And that’s what makes Georgia’s 12 different than
everybody else’s.
As I said earlier, most guy are taking out a good player and
putting in some average, at best, player because they want
to change the run fits or make it a little bit more difficult for
a defense to prepare for.
These guys are doing it with, you know, arguably two of the
best tight ends in college football and some really
exceptional athletes.
And again the thing that stands out about them is their
toughness and their willingness to go in there and mix it up
and their effectiveness as blockers.
Q. Kirby, we get to see Javon on the field and on the
sidelines. A charismatic guy, a leader. What is he like
behind the scenes and how have you seen him grow in
the last couple of years?
COACH SMART: Just a great kid. He loves football.
When you start combing our state, I wouldn’t say there’s
kids as talented as Javon everywhere but there’s just a lot
of kids in our state that love football.
That’s what we found during the COVID year. He never
got to come to campus, he never got to come to camp. But
he sent in at least 100 videotapes of him working out in his
backyard and putting out calls, and I said this guy is
different. Kids aren’t doing this in COVID times where
they’re going out to work out and making sure they get
scene.
And we just kind of fell in love with the culture and the
toughness of the kid. And he’s become — he makes our
team tougher. He’s had injury after injury. He’s had some
shoulders. He won’t put on a black shirt. He creates a
dynamic on our team of, if you think you’re hurt, look at
Javon. He’ll go out there and practice every day and he’ll
have contact and play with toughness.
I think in this day and age that’s different in football, and it
creates a little bit of an attitude for our team that makes us
better. It permeates the special teams. And even
receivers see it. They’re, like, man, if he can go, then I can
go. So I think that’s the biggest thing he brings to our
team.
Q. Addressing injuries going into tomorrow’s game,
what’s the latest update on Darnell Washington, Coach
Smart, and Kendre Miller, Coach Dykes?
COACH SMART: We’re hoping to get Darnell ready. He’s
continued to work really hard, done a lot of rehab. I know
he wants to, his first chance to play on the West Coast.
He’s from Vegas and this game means a lot to him. And I
know it’s an important one to him.
COACH DYKES: Kendre, we’ll have a run through today
that’s our typical Friday run-through, the day before the
game, full speed run-through. We’ll get a really good
sense of what he can and can’t do today, and then make a
decision going into tomorrow.
So running backs are different, when you talk about a
running back and you’re talking about a thigh bruise or a
sprained shoulder or a contusion some place, those are
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things that running backs can typically play through.
When you start talking about a knee and a sprained knee
and the things that go along with that, potentially, then
you’ve got to be very, very careful.
And obviously Kendre is going to want to play. It’s a big
stage. He’s a tough kid. But he’s a young man. And our
job is to take care of him and make sure that we don’t just
see Monday night, that we see the big picture as far as
taking care of Kendre’s health and in doing the right thing
for him — again, not just for Monday, but for his immediate
future.
So we’ll take it all in today, see where he’s at, then make a
decision.
Q. Coach Smart, I know you talked about not feeling
like you were the hunted, but the pressure of being
installed as the favorite and being the No. 1 team in the
country, to face this group of guys who were unranked
all year. For you, Coach Dykes, can you speak to the
fact of TCU’s becoming a national brand. Earlier this
week on TNT, Ernie Johnson, a Georgia grad, bet Shaq
that Georgia would win by 28. And Shaq, who lives in
Texas, said he’d eat a Horned Frogs if it happened
here. But here’s an NBA show talking about TCU
football.
COACH SMART: I’m not sure I understand the question
exactly. In regards to the hunted or being hunted, I
promise you there’s no greater pressure on any sport than
there is on college athletics, especially for major football
programs. And I don’t think Coach Dykes or myself would
be in this business if we weren’t used to pressure.
And I don’t — I look at it in a vacuum. I don’t get to watch
much TV or social media. I just worry about our team and
don’t get caught up in anything outside of that.
And we’ve had a saying around our place for a long time
that probability is not reality. So we don’t control what
people say and probability. Reality is what happens on the
field in between those lines. That’s what takes a lot more
courage than just putting out probability.
COACH DYKES: I’ll say this: You look around college
athletics and look at the NCAA basketball tournament, and
you see teams that you don’t expect to be there, end up in
the top eight or Final Four. That’s something that’s an
annual occurrence these days.
You know, college football is different. It just is. There’s a
lot of plays that go into that game. There’s a lot of players.
Instead of five guys and one or two guys get really hot,
you’ve got to have an entire team doing it and execute at a
high level.
So I do think it’s more difficult to kind of emerge from the
shadows in football than it is maybe in basketball.
Our group has had a little bit of a magical ride. And I think
the biggest difference is that it’s our first year. We were
still trying to get to know the guys. We’re still trying to get a
culture established.
I just think at the end of the day that’s the most important
thing is what is your culture, because it drives the decision
a player makes from the time they wake up in the morning
to the time they go to bed.
What is their level of commitment? What’s their level of
responsibility to their teammates? How deeply are they
truly invested in the team? And so there’s all these things
that sometimes take time. To our players’ credit, for
whatever reason, it didn’t take as long this time as it usually
does.
Our guys were hungry and they were mature. They had a
chip on their shoulder. And they bought in quickly.
Now, the challenging thing, as we move forward, past
Monday, is where do we go from here?
And there’s a standard now that — and a set of
expectations that accompany this kind of success. And to
me that’s the exciting part. It really is.
I mean, you really get to find out how good you are. It’s
one thing to get to the top. It’s another thing to be able to
stay there.
And, again, that’s why I have so much respect for Coach
Smart and his staff and the Georgia program because
that’s a hard thing to do.
It’s very, very difficult to do. And it takes a lot of factors
and a lot of people and a lot of commitment to be able to
do that on a consistent basis.
So we’re looking forward to that challenge. There’s some
doors open to us now, because of this success, that have
been closed for a long time. And it’s up to us to figure out
how to reap the benefits from — when it comes to
recruiting, the opportunity to recruit a different kind of
player, when it comes to the opportunity to have access to
staff members and additional staff and just all the things
that can help you take the next step as a program.
So, you know, it’s been a journey to get here. But we’re
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excited about not only Monday night, but where do we go
from here. And how can we continue to build our brand
from a national standpoint.
And I think the second part of the question, look, I’ve
always been a Shaq guy. I told the story before, my wife
and I have been married 17 years now. We’ve had three
disagreements in our marriage in 17 years. And one of
them was about Shaq and Kobe. I’m a Shaq guy; she’s a
Kobe girl.
That was probably about an eventful argument as we’ve
had in our marriage. Look, I’m a Shaq dude through and
through. Always have been. He’s a Texas guy, San
Antonio Cole.
(Laughter).
That’s more information than you wanted but it’s truth.
COACH SMART: I’m more impressed you’ve only had
three arguments with your wife in 17 years. I’m still trying
to conquer that.
(Laughter).
Q. Kirby, I think you’re still on the rules committee. I
wonder what you both thought of the concept of
limiting what are now being called “exposures,” not
plays, but exposures for or against. What are the
advantages or disadvantages of that?
COACH SMART: You’re talking about, total number of
plays in game exposures you’re talking about?
Q. Yes.
COACH SMART: I think one of the first things you look at
the on the rules committee they bring it up every year is the
length of games. I think there can be two things there.
You’re talking about TV viewership and you’re talking about
exposures to contact in terms of number of plays. There’s
a lot of ways to manipulate the number of plays, including
the clock.
Our big brother in this world of football is the NFL. And so
much of what we do is modeled off what they do. They
spend a lot, a lot, a lot of money on trying to get it right.
And they shrunk their game into a timeframe that’s
probably a little bit tighter window than ours, and also trying
to limit exposures as well. Although they have a longer
season and they’ve added games to their season.
So when you look at all that, it encompasses a big
decision. We are dealing with student-athletes, and I think
it starts with that.
So I wouldn’t sit up here and say I’m in favor of shrinking
the game. I do think our game has gotten long, and there
are a lot of plays. Because in college football there’s a lot
more teams that use tempo therefore they want more
snaps than you see in the NFL.
That’s not prevalent in the NFL. It’s a different game when
it comes to that.
So it probably boils down to what’s safest for our players
without changing our game, because our college football
game is different than the NFL, and we don’t have to mimic
that, although we want to make it as safe as possible for
our players.
COACH DYKES: Look, we’re getting ready to play our
15th ball game. I think this is 22 consecutive weeks that
our players have been practicing. It’s been a grind. It’s a
long process. There’s lots of factors to consider, not only
physical health but mental health as well when it comes to
that type of grind with 18- to 22-year-old kids and the
emotional toll and mental health toll that it can take on
them. So I think we’ve got to consider everything.
And as the number of plays in games increase and the
number of games increase, then we have to say, okay,
look, that’s the way this is played. Let’s make adjustments
in practice. Let’s cut down the number of exposures that
we have on a daily basis in practice.
And so it’s like anything else. There’s a set of rules. We
have to figure out how to best take care of our players and
put a quality product on the field within the set of rules. I
do think that that needs to be something that is a constant
conversation about, okay, how can we take care of our
guys, again, not only physically but mentally.
Because there is, look, these guys are preparing to take
big ball games but they’re also preparing to take final
exams. And they’re also dealing with issues off the field
with family and friends and all the different things that
these young men are exposed to on a daily basis.
So it can be a very complicated thing. And we’ve got to do
the very best we can to look after not only our players
mentally but also physically and their mental health
because that’s the most important thing at the end of the
day.
Q. Obviously the mission is to compete for a national
championship. But can you explain how the practice
time and this time of year is so important to the
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development and maturity of your younger players?
COACH DYKES: It’s obviously been a big thing for us.
Again, we’ve had lots of practice opportunities. We’ve had
an additional 15 leading into the semifinal game that our
players haven’t had in the past.
So if you think about it, you know, if you’re a senior team
and if you’re a senior player and you’ve been in a practice
that has consistently been to bowl games, and particularly
New Year’s Day bowl games, or bowl games that occur
later during the bowl game cycle, you look up and you go,
okay, it’s 15 practices for four years. That’s 60 practices.
Okay. Well, that’s four years of an additional spring
training.
And that’s a big deal. That’s a really big deal. And that
goes back to what I talked about earlier in our program.
We have four guys leading into this year that have
participated in a bowl game.
And so we’re a little behind in terms of our development in
trying to catch up to some of the folks in front of us
because we just haven’t had that many practice
opportunities.
So what we’ve had to do is maximize them. Again, to our
players’ credit, they show up every day with a willingness
to go to work. And it makes a difference.
And we try to sit down and say, okay, look, we were
fortunate enough to get into the Big 12 Championship
game, which was an extra four practices, five practices.
We were fortunate enough to get into the College Football
Playoff, which is an extra 15 practices. We were fortunate
enough to get into the national championship game, which
is an extra five practices. All those things add up.
So we sat down and we said what do we want to
accomplish by this? Number one, win the last game. That
was our goal. And number two, develop our team, and
including our young players.
And so it’s been a great opportunity for some of our young
players that have been on scout team that haven’t had a
chance really to get to develop that much to get developed.
And so we go back and we check our work all the time.
We have objectives we want to accomplish and we go
back and say, are we really doing this. Are we really giving
those young guys an opportunity to shine and develop and
compete and become the kind of players we want them to
become? And we’re making sure that’s the case.
And so far I think that’s happened. And it can’t help but
carry over, I think, we’ll find out.
COACH SMART: A lot of the same. I said this yesterday
at media day, and I hate to repeat myself, but I really think
a lot of the reason we were able to turn our roster over
from last year to this year was the practices and
preparation we had at this time of year. As we were
finishing the year last year, we were getting really
high-quality work out of about, I would say, seven or eight
kids starting for us.
Right now in the game, tomorrow night, we’re — scout team
players or 2s — and the way we do our reps as the year
goes, our 2s get a little more volume and our 1s get a little
less knowing that the 2s need the work and might be up for
call as you have injuries.
So the guys that are playing now that were 2s last year, in
some cases 3s, they got a lot of work. And I think Coach
Dykes is right; that cumulative effect — I’ve always said the
states that have spring practices, their kids leave high
school football one year ahead of states that don’t because
they’ve had four spring practices from ninth grade to 12th
grade.
And our kids have had a lot of practices. The counter
thought to that is how much we do practice. We have a lot.
And we target a lot of days for our kids to — the 1s go
condition, and the 2s and 3s go get opportunity. And they
literally go against each other and just play football.
And I think that does help in terms of getting your team
prepared.
I also think, we’re in the portal age, when kids feel like they
don’t have a role, they’re quicker to leave. And we’re really
selling the development.
We’re going to show Jordan Davis, from his freshman and
sophomore year, working on the scout team, and say, hey,
look where this guy was and look at what he became doing
it this way. And selling that within your program becomes
a selling point to them to stick and stay and truly develop
and grow in the organization.
Q. How do you feel about the current college football
calendar with regards to recruiting and transfer and
signings? And what changes, if any, would you like to
see?
COACH DYKES: Kirby left this one for me to answer first.
(Laughter).
Look, the calendar is the calendar. It’s a strange thing.
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We’ve had a calendar that we followed a long time that
made a lot of sense because the players signed in
February and they made their decisions when they took
visits in October and November, December.
And that’s not the case anymore. It’s different.
And so what we’ve done is we’ve made revisions through
the thing that have made sense at the time. But we’ve kind
of ended up with a little bit of a hodgepodge of stuff.
And everybody has their feelings on what they want. You
talk to 10 different coaches, you get 10 different opinions.
The one thing I think that we have to do in this profession
is, as Kirby alluded to earlier, this is an ultra, ultra
competitive, high accountability profession. And we’re all
incredibly driven.
And I think that what we have to do is protect ourselves
from ourselves as coaches. We have to legislate time off,
because not only do young people have mental health, we
have mental health as well.
This deal is a grind. And you’ve got to take care of your
coaches and you’ve got to take care of your staff, and
you’ve got to take care of yourself. And the only way that
you can do that is by legislating time off. Because if we
have a day — and Kirby is the same way, I’m sure, I know
he is. If we have an opportunity to recruit a player, by God,
we’re going to recruit him. We’ll have him on our campus
or we’re going to be in a high school or we’re going to be
on the phone or we’re going to do something to try to
secure that recruiting commitment.
So it’s a complicated issue. We could sit here and talk
about it for hours, but at the end of the day, to me that’s the
most important thing is legislating time off.
I have a 14-year-old and an 11-year-old daughter and a
6-year-old son, and I want to be able to see them and be
part of their life and have a chance to spend time with
them. And it’s very difficult if we don’t have some kind of
legislated time off where we can get away, where we focus
not only on our players and our program, but our families
and doing our job as a father and as a husband in that
capacity as well.
It’s complicated. There’s work that needs to be done. I
think the good thing about the NCAA now is we’re trying to
do things. There is more of a “let’s try to do something” as
opposed to “let’s ignore this problem.”
And I think some of the issues that we’re having in college
football now were because for years and years we stuck
our head in the sand and didn’t address issues that
involved our student-athletes.
And now, thankfully, we’ve been forced to address those
issues. And I think it’s led to some great opportunities for
our student-athletes as a result.
COACH SMART: Tough balance. I concur with a lot of
things that Coach Dykes just said. It’s not the profession
that I originally got into in terms of relationships and
coaching. It’s changed so much.
My position has changed as well from when I first got into
it. But it’s become a much tougher profession to navigate
in terms of your own family and your time constraints on
that, especially if you want to try to stay at the highest level
and what it requires to do.
And I think the NCAA and the minds that help put all the
information together, including ourselves as coaches, we’re
all to blame for kind of eating our own. And it’s like a
cannibalizing, because you won’t stop. And it just keeps
going.
And I think with the playoff system coming up, it’s going to
be really interesting to see what happens: Are you going
to be playing games while you’re trying to sign guys in the
early signing period in December? It’s gotten more
competitive than ever.
I mean, you’re already looking at junior days, six, seven
days from right now. And we’re trying to play a national
championship. So it doesn’t stop for the coaches at the
highest level. I’m not sure any of us have the exact right
answer, but I do think being smart and legislating time for
coaches to be with their team and with their families is
important.
The flipside of that is the prospects want their opportunities
to make a good decision and the time that’s very
demanding is tough, it’s tough to make those decisions.
COACH DYKES: I want to add one thing to that. Look, we
were preparing this week for a national championship
game and we had six transfers on campus on an official
visit. And you’re just kind of like, really? I mean, are we
really doing this?
And so that’s just the way it is now. And those days were
going to be 18-hour days before and the 18-hour days
turned into 20-hour days.
And that’s the nature of our business. Don’t get me wrong.
I’m not complaining. I have the opportunity to do
something else if I want to. But we do have to, at some
point, kind of sit down and say, okay, look, here’s the
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calendar; what can we do to serve the players, first and
foremost. And second of all, try to retain some kind of
ability to be a good father and a good husband.
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