LIONS OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR BEN JOHNSON QUOTE SHEET
November 30, 2023
Opening Statement: “It was good to have a few days off and kind of hit that reset button and take a look at why the last two games have gone the way they have for us on offense and really, when you look at it, we’ve been able to move the ball, but clearly the turnovers are the issue, so our guys know it, we’re addressing it and we clean that area up, we’ll feel good about going into the next six games of the season. Been around a coach in the past that used to say the season really starts after Thanksgiving, so kind of feels that way here this year. It’s a good thing.”
On how much of the offensive line’s performance against the Packers he considers an anomaly: “I know our guys, they’re going to respond really well. It was not the best game upfront that we’ve had, really in the last year and a half it’d be on the bottom end of that. They know that. And really, it showed up I think more on critical situations, some of those fourth downs (Lions QB) Jared (Goff)’s getting hit, third downs, Jared’s getting hit and clearly, we don’t want any of that, so we’re going to clean that up upfront. You’ve got to give a lot of credit to Green Bay. They had a great plan on a short week and they had a high intensity going into the game as well that we never really found our footing and got on a roll. So, credit goes to them on that and listen, great learning opportunity for us. We’ve got to have our best stuff each and every week.”
On if there is a benefit to having a tough game like the one against the Packers on Thanksgiving before the season begins to ramp up: “Yeah, I mean we’ve had – we’ve kind of gotten hit in the teeth a couple times this year, really since (Lions Head) Coach (Dan) Campbell took over. Even last year, we got hit in the teeth and our guys come back and they respond. End of the year last year, Carolina kind of took it to us and we ended up cleaning it up and Baltimore got after us a little bit and then we cleaned that up and then hopefully we can learn from the Green Bay experience and play cleaner football. I think that’s really what it comes down to. The guys are, for the most part, we’re handling the scheme and we’re playing fast, it’s just some of the little things, the execution part of it, the technique, has fallen off and that’s what we’ve got to get back on.”
On how much they will lock into playing their best football with the season ramping up going into December: “I think our guys understand we are in a unique opportunity. For the guys that have been here, or at least my time here, this is my fifth season, we haven’t had a record quite like this and an opportunity to seize whatever we want to seize here the second half of the season. And so, I think just keeping big perspective and where we’re headed and what we can potentially accomplish still this year. Had a setback the last few weeks with the Baltimore game and obviously Green Bay, but still big picture, we’re 8-3 and we can improve really quickly and play some good football here at the end.”
On how exciting it was to see Lions QB Hendon Hooker practice for the first time yesterday: “Yeah, he did great yesterday. He is – you can tell he’s fired up and he threw about a million passes, it seemed like, out there and ball’s coming off his hand, he’s spinning it. (Lions Quarterbacks) Coach (Mark) Brunell and (Lions Assistant Quarterbacks Coach) J.T. Barrett have done a heck of a job keeping him up-to-speed. It’s hard, particularly for younger players, to stay engaged when it’s just all mental work for as long as it’s been for him, but now that we can combine the physical to it and get him as many game-like reps as possible will really accelerate his learning from there.”
On how much of a benefit it is to have Lions Defensive Coordinator Aaron Glenn on staff with the knowledge he has of the Saints defense from the time he spent on their defensive staff: “Yeah, and no question, he’s got some insight. We might see some things on tape and ask him, ‘Hey, what exactly is going on here?’ Because they have a lot of scheme. They play a lot of coverages, very good players in the front and on the backend, they’re about as aggressive as a backend as we’ve seen. They’re going to get up, they’re going to challenge us. Our receivers have got to – they’re going to have to buckle up and be ready to go this week, probably more so than what we’ve seen so far this year. So, AG’s been really good in kind of creating a little clarity for us and then when AG first got here, very similar schematics and so the guys that were here that first year, and some of last year, kind of – they really know, they really know what that style of defense is about. So, I do think the veteran guys in the group, they won’t be surprised by the physical style of play that this defense has.”
On if the flea flicker in the game against the Packers was not successful because they had less time to prepare for intricate plays like that one during a short week: “Yeah, we all love flea flickers, right? That’s right, no, listen, we saw something on tape that made us believe that we could take advantage of potentially getting a flea flicker. It’s a rare opportunity that you would ever see something like that. You listen to the TV copy, the entire defense is yelling draw, draw, draw and so we were getting the sell that we were looking for. But no, the execution was not what we want and just like you said, that is the danger on a short week not ever getting anything full speed of the execution being a little bit off and when you are as multiple as we are, that’s why the full-speed reps in practice are so critical because – and it really happened the first time we played Green Bay that first Thursday night game. Short week again and we had a couple plays that we were just a little bit off and I remember us as a coaching staff saying, ‘Golly, if we would have gotten a full speed, we maybe would’ve been able to clean it up and they would’ve been good plays for us.’ And so you’re always trying to do that balancing act on a short week of, hey we’ve got to have enough to attack them, but at the same time, we’ve still got to execute at a high level. So, that one we fell short.”
On if Lions WR Jameson Williams’s performance against the Packers is another step up for him in improving his game: “He’s getting better every week. You see it and because of that, the way he’s practicing, the way he’s preparing and the way he’s playing, because of that, his reps are going up. And so, he continues to get out there and the ball’s going to just start gravitating to him just a little bit more than it already has. But he’s doing a really nice job and he just needs to continue to put in the work like he’s doing right now and good things will happen.”
On how much Saints RB Jamaal Williams meant to the offense when he was in Detroit the last two seasons: “Yeah, each year’s a little bit different in terms of the vocal leaders on the team. Last year, he was certainly more on that side of things. I’m sure he’s doing that for them down in New Orleans. He’s a heck of a guy, heck of a player and what happens is when – the nature of the business is we move on year-to-year, the team never stays the same and so he leaves, someone else will step up and so we’ve got some young guys, like (Lions T) Penei Sewell’s becoming a more vocal leader for us here on offense. And we’ve got guys along in each position group that are really trying to take charge in that way.”
On how he personally thinks Lions QB Jared Goff has been taking his turnovers the last two games: “It’s really everything for him because he touches the ball every play, so he knows he has to take care of it. It’s one of the first things we do every springtime with him is we go through the uncomfortable act of watching the turnover, the bad play cut up, sacks, fumbles, interceptions, why did they happen? How can we learn from it so it doesn’t happen again? And listen, the ones that we’ve had over the last two weeks are not entirely his fault. Some of those interceptions, that’s the cost of doing business. We’re trying to throw a slant route and (Lions TE Sam) LaPorta gets knocked off his route and this corner’s there to make the play, so those are ones that we can live with and we can handle. And our defense has done a heck of a job. We put them in some tough spots the last two weeks and they’ve really played good football considering the sudden change, as many of them as they’ve been put in. But the ones that we can clean up, and I think (Lions Head) Coach (Dan Campbell) already talked about it, is we’re crossing the line of scrimmage, that ball’s got to be tucked away. We’re not thinking about holding onto it or throwing it anymore, so we’ve got to tuck it away. Jared knows that, we’ll clean that up and we’ll be good to go from there. There are a couple plays last week where he’s holding onto the ball longer than we wanted to. And that’s – they had a good defense compared to our call as well, so that’s on me also trying to help him, so that number one gets open a little more him and so it all plays a part. We all have a hand in it, but he’s certainly taken ownership of it and we’ll see some dividends paid here soon.”
On how difficult it is for a play caller when turnovers happen on third and fourth down when they have a script they wanted to complete: “I mean, it’s – it doesn’t allow us to get in a rhythm. There’s some things we want to establish early in games, and that varies week-to-week that last couple weeks, we really haven’t been able to do and so it’s taken us a little while to get going. Fortunately, last week, our guys responded in a big way out of halftime, that was our best series coming out of halftime all year, and so hopefully we can continue that trend as well. But establishing that rhythm is really important to what we do on offense.”
On what they can learn from their first drive coming out of halftime against the Packers: “Yeah, it helps starting with two explosive plays. No, I don’t think there’s any magic in the plays, but our guys, they weren’t happy with how that first half went and so they came out with some good intensity there in the second half and got us going. Unfortunately, we weren’t able to withstand that for the course of the half and come away with the win.”
LIONS DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR AARON GLENN QUOTE SHEET
November 30, 2023
Opening Statement: “It’s been about two weeks since I’ve addressed you guys. Hope you guys had a good Thanksgiving also because I sure did. Man, we’re 8-3. Going to play a really good team, a team that I know well. A lot of the same players are still there. Some new players, obviously, going on three years. I know this head coach really well, I know that coaching staff really well. And man, I am looking forward to the challenge of playing this team, I really am. And this will be a good one.”
On the challenges a defensive coordinator faces when competing against a dynamic player like Saints QB Taysom Hill and his dominance in the red zone: “Here’s the thing about Taysom, and I want to just talk about him as a person, first off, he’s a really, really good person. He’s a God-fearing man. He’s a family man. He’s a player that’s tough, he’s competitive, he’s faster than what some people think. He’s built different than what some people think because he’s a thicker-bodied player and he has – he’s found a niche in this League where he can excel and I’m not just talking about on offense, on special teams also, because that was his first niche when I was there. But defending him, you really just don’t know where he’s going to line up a good amount of times, so you always have to be on cue on that. And we have certain defense that we’re going to play depending on where he’s at. And we’ve got to be on top of that. We’ve got to be on top of that from a personnel standpoint and then we have to be on top of it of where he’s at, as far as what position he’s going to be at, that standpoint. So it can be difficult, but I think our guys will be ready for it.”
On where he sees the defense right now and where he thinks they need to close the gap to finish the regular season out strong: “It’s funny you say that because that’s what we’ve talked about starting last week because I’ll tell guys, just from my time of playing, people remember what you do in November and December and you want to be peaking at that point. And when we look at – and that’s one of the first conversations we had last week, and when you look at last week, man there were a lot of things that doesn’t really show up statistically, but man when you look at it as a defense, there are some really good things that the guys did. Scoreboard wasn’t it, because we lost. But when you go out there and you have two turnovers and you get a ball back, you have some fourth-down stops and you get the ball back, I mean those are things that our guys have to look at and be like, ‘You know what? We took the field.’ And our motto is man listen, that’s more TV time for us any time we take the field. And man, those are the positives that I try to make sure I talk about with our guys, so we can start looking at the fact that we want to start trending, so was everything great? No, it wasn’t. And we have some things we have to work on, we all know that. So each week, I mean that’s what we’re trying to do. We’re trying to make sure we’re trending in this direction. That’s in the run game, that’s in the pass game, that’s with our pass rush, that’s taking the ball away also. So those are some things that we have to make sure we do.”
On how the communication and leadership shifts on defense with Lions LB Alex Anzalone potentially out this Sunday: “Well, that’s the reason we got (Lions LB) Jack (Campbell). He’s a true MIKE backer. And he has to be the one that makes all those checks and he’s capable of doing that. Smart, heady guy that’s tough. He’s built for these moments. I’m looking forward for him to be the actual mouthpiece of the defense going into this game.”
On the value Saints RB Jamaal Williams brought to the defense off the field when he was on the team the last two seasons: “Well, we all know he has a different personality. We all know that, in a good way, in a good way. And he’s actually brought that – just from some of the guys I know, that he’s brought that personality there because he’s not going to change who he is. But here’s what we do know about him as a player, he’s tough, he’s competitive. Anywhere when it’s short yardage at goal line, man we have to be on top of it because he’s superb in those situations, so. And our guys know that from being here. The new guys are just finding that out just watching tape of him. And I know he’s going to be juiced up, just like I’m going to be juiced up, just like (Lions Head Coach) Dan (Campbell)’s going to be juiced up. I mean he played here for a couple years and he wants to kick our ass just like we want to kick theirs. So, this will be a fun game for us to play against him and for me and Dan to go back to where we were, we were there for like five years, so looking forward to it.”
On how to unlock pressures from other edge defenders in a slump when Lions DL Aidan Hutchinson is blocked: “You know what? That’s one thing, as coaches, that we’ve got to continue to try to figure out on – and I guess I can’t figure out, keep coaching our guys on how do we generate these pressures, especially the way teams are playing us now. Because teams now, they’re blocking everything up because they know that Aidan’s a guy, so they’re putting two guys on him. And usually with the other guys, when you watch the tape, they have guys maxed out. And a guy, whoever’s in one-on-one, that guy has got to be able to win. And that’s us, as coaches, continuing to teach these guys how to make sure you always get on edges in those situations. It’s not the easiest thing, but man we are coaching our ass off to try to get those guys to be able to do that and I think the guys are trying their butts off, we just have to continue emphasizing those things. I think – going into last week, I think (Lions DL Josh) Paschal did some pretty good things as far as getting on the edges, so we’ve got to continue to work with that player in that situation.”
On if they are focusing on improvement in the red zone going against a proficient red zone team like the Saints: “Absolutely, and that’s a situation where there’s really a lot of one-on-one situations where you’ve got to win because there’s not a lot of space and you can’t really just play zone, so you have to really match up with guys. And we’ve got to understand where our help’s at also, alright. So that goes in with the players just executing and that’s us making sure we put those guys in the right positions, so any time you’re in the red zone, it is basically one-on-one. We know the ball’s coming out quick, or you’ve got to hunker down because the best teams that happen in the red zone are the teams that can run the ball, so we know we have to be better in that area.”
On how the quarterback pressures Lions DL Aidan Hutchinson produces in games can turn into sacks: “Well, that’s just finishing, that’s just finishing and I think sometimes people put so much into sacks that they get away from understanding that this player is affecting the quarterback at a pretty high rate for us. We just have to get everybody else to be able to affect the quarterback just as much as he is, alright. And I think once that happens, the sack totals will come up. And we’ve been in situations where, man sacks have come in bunches for us and that happened all last year. Even this year it’s been in that situation. Man, we’ve just got to try to unlock that, as you say, not with just him, but with the other guys too. That’s really the focal point, to be honest with you. Everybody knows what Hutch can do. It’s just getting all of our other guys. And even our second-level rushers to be able to create some pressure like that. And last week, man we actually blitzed quite a bit and we have to. I mean, that’s just who we are. You all say cut me open, I mean I like to be in man coverage in blitz. But man, I think our guys do a really good job being able to play zone then being able to play man, because that’s who we are as a defense.”
On if there is a need for tighter coverage to give the defenders up front a better opportunity to produce stops: “Man, that’s always the plan when you’re playing against a team that’s getting the ball out quick because the rusher is not going to get there. So now, when you’re in man coverage, you’ve got to win those one-on-one battles. And that’s what happens with any team that tries to get the ball out quick like that.”
On how much he has heard Lions LB Jack Campbell’s voice grow as a leader: “Here’s what I will tell you, when we’re in meetings, and sometimes I tell (Lions LB) Alex (Anzalone) don’t say anything because it’s easier for him for the most part, the next voice that you’re going to hear is Jack and that’s encouraging because what he does in the meeting actually translates to what he’s going to do on the field. And he understands this defense like the back of his hands now. Just the fact of him knowing that he’s the guy, he’s the mouth, but he’s a guy that the whole defense is looking at to make sure we get into the right checks. And for him to have this opportunity right now, man I think it’s outstanding.”
On what they have to do to be more efficient at the start of games to eliminate touchdowns on opening drives: “Just play better, play better. I think everybody would say that.”
On what he has seen from Lions DL Josh Paschal in games and practices that shows his growth and where he can improve: “Exactly what you saw in that game film. The thing now is, man he has to take it to another level. I mean, we drafted this player in the second round and he’s had glimpses of what you saw that last game. Now, man, it’s time to – the run game, man he’ll become a really, really good player as far as setting the edge and being able to do things like that. Now, we have to unlock the pass rush part of it to be able to transition from run, man to pass. And that’s when he’s busting his butt to be able to do that. Because that player, I mean that’s just who he is, and you guys have talked to him before, because that player, we need that player to be able to do that. Because besides (Lions DL Aidan Hutchinson) Hutch, (Lions DL Alim McNeill) Mac, I mean Paschal has to be that guy, because he has that ability.”
LIONS SPECIAL TEAMS COORDINATOR DAVE FIPP QUOTE SHEET
November 30, 2023
On how much time he spends thinking of new ways for successful onside kicks and his thoughts on the execution of the attempted onside kick at the end of the Green Bay game: “Yeah, well, the ones you recover go great execution-wise, the ones you don’t, don’t go very well execution-wise. I’ve had somebody ask me that question before and it’s like, ‘Well, what’s the best thing to do?’ And I think we talked about this a while back, but I think there’s some things you can do to help your odds. The odds are still not very good as you pointed out, and that’s across the League. That’s not us, it’s everybody. I think there’s been one recovered this season and it was recovered by Baltimore. And truth be told – or actually it wasn’t recovered by Baltimore, it went against Baltimore. It wasn’t a great kick necessarily. The guy just kind of botched the play and so the kick team came down with it. So, to answer your question, I think there’s some things you can do to help your odds or increase your percentages of getting the ball back. It’s still not very good. You try the best, you do. How much time do you put into it? I mean a lot, but I think everybody’s done it. And every special teams coordinator across the League has worked on the play or thought about it and they’ve all thrown everything they’ve got at it for the last couple years and it really hasn’t helped get the ball back a whole lot. The best play is when something probably unpredictable happens and it shocks their team as much as it does yours and guy ends up missing the play, and you end of with the football at the end of it. So, yeah, I don’t know. I wish I had a better answer for you and it was more controlled, but it’s really not. It’s not a great play. It’s a touch situation to be in. In terms of our execution, obviously we didn’t execute it well enough. I mean they get the ball back and we had the penalty. The penalty was on our back foot. If your back food moves before the ball is kicked, even if you’re onsides, they call that an illegal formation. So, that’s really what it was. (Lions S) Tracy Walker’s back foot was just slightly moving as the ball was being kicked, and I’m not making excuses for it. It’s definitely not good enough. It’s something we talk about all the time and work on and teach and coach, but at the same time, if you sit there and wait all day for the ball to be kicked, you’re never going to get it. So, it’s kind of being on the edge, but also being right. And again, I’m not making excuses, I need to do a better job with that. But yeah, it’s a tough play.”
On if he would be in favor of the idea of replacing onside kick attempts with an alternative like a fourth-and-15: “Yeah, I think in general for me, I’ve kind of always taken the approach of let the League come up with the way the game is played and then my job’s to figure out the best way to play the play, or the plays that we can play. I’ve always said that I think the League has done a great job of making the game better and safer for the players out there on the field and really for the excitement of the game throughout the course of my time in this League. So, keep it up to them, I’ll stay out of it.”
On what stands out about New Orleans’s special teams unit: “Yeah, I mean they’re a very good outfit. Their returner, (Saints WR/RS Rashid Shaheed) number 22, I know he might be nicked up but the guy’s an explosive player. They’ve always got explosive returners back there. (Saints RB Alvin) Kamara’s done a bunch of it in his past. (Saints QB) Taysom Hill’s done a bunch of it. Taysom Hill went back there in the end of the game last week when 22 went down. (Saints DB) J.T. Gray, number 48 obviously a very good player for them. Been a great player for a long time, kind of a fifth safety that they keep active on gameday. They’ve got a great linebacking corps. They’ve got a good combination of young and old players in there. They’ve got 52 (Saints LB D’Marco Jackson) who’s a little bit younger. They’ve got (Saints LB Nephi Sewell) 45, (Lions T Penei) Sewell’s brother, little bit younger. Then they’ve got some veteran guys, (Saints LB Ty Summers) 42, a guy who played in Green Bay we played against a bunch of times, 53, (Saints LB Zack) Baun inside. So, very good group, lot of experience. They’ve got a lot of players who have played for like three or four years so they have enough youth and energy to play hard, but they also have enough experience that they don’t make a lot of mistakes. They’ve got speed on the perimeter. (Saints CB Lonnie Johnson Jr.) 28 also is another good player on the outside to complement 48. So overall, I’d say very good outfit. Their specialists, (Saints P Lou Hedley) the punter is a little bit different than most of these guys. He’s an Australian kid, he’s a rugby punter, so he rolls out and punts right so they break the formation. They’ve got Taysom Hill back there as their personal protector, so they’ve run the fake game with him. Obviously, the guy plays that position on offense. A quarterback back there for them, he could take a direct snap. So, that makes him dangerous there. So, pretty good group overall. Yeah, it’s a good challenge for us. I know our guys are excited about it. I’m certainly excited for it. It’ll be a good opportunity, great atmosphere, great place to play. I’ve been a part of playing some good games there, so it should be fun.”
On how much of the failed fake punt attempt against Green Bay was choosing the wrong opportunity: “Yeah, I would say in general, my kind of belief on the play and this is what I think as a coach is ultimately, the head coach called the play because he believed in us and he thought we’d be able to execute it and get the job done, and he thought the outcome would be different. And we’ve been fairly successful at that, but for me, at the end of the day, we let him down. We didn’t execute well enough to get the job done and there’s a lot of things that go into that, but I would say most of it really falls on my shoulders. I’ve got to do a better job of getting them ready to play that play and no matter what the look is and all that stuff and come down and make the head coach look good is really my job. And I appreciate him having the confidence in us to run the play. He’s been great with all that stuff, but obviously, we’ve got to come through for him right there and we put him in a bad spot.”
On how much more difficult it is to execute a fake punt when the defense is expecting them: “Yeah, I mean we knew going into the play that it was going to be an uphill fight a little bit or was going to be a challenge, I’ll say that. (Packers LB Kingsley Enagbare) Number 55’s a big, physical player for them and he was on the edge and he kind of set the edge for them. Snap was a little bit behind us, so it kind of held us from getting out there real fast. So, there’s a – it’s just like any play, there’s a lot of things that add up into it. It’s not one player, one guy, it’s not necessarily just the look. It’s just a lot of little things that go into it. When you don’t execute them all perfectly, it can end up looking bad quick. It was unfortunate for us because obviously it hurt us in the game.”
On if the unique onside punt after the safety in the Chicago game is something they practice or put together in the moment: “Yeah, it’s a good question. Unfortunately for me, I’ve been a part of that play twice which is why we were ready for it this time. The first time I saw it, it was against Dallas. We were playing at Philly and it was against Dallas and it was a little bit more of, ‘Oh, no. Here’s what’s probably going to happen, but we don’t really know.’ And we ended up getting the ball back, so we were successful on it, but it didn’t go down quite as cleanly. So, it is a play that we practice quite a bit – or not quite a bit, but enough to make sure everybody knows what they’re doing, have a plan in place. Obviously, we had (Lions WR Amon-Ra) St. Brown out there to field the ball. So, obviously, a difficult catch. Some people ask me after the fact like, ‘Why would you do that? The guy can just fair catch it and the play’s over.’ I said, ‘Well, why don’t you go back there and fair catch it and we’ll see how it goes.’ But it’s obviously a difficult catch. I mean it’s not a normal punt. The thing’s kind of knuckling or spiraling around as it’s coming down. It’s straight up in the air, it’s really high, there’s a lot of people around you. It’s a high pressure catch and St. Brown did an incredible job. And I thought really the whole group did a great job with their execution. We kind of formed a cup around the thing and got a bunch of bodies around it, but far enough away. We weren’t blocking so we couldn’t be blocked into the returner. There’s just a lot of little things, but yeah, it ended up being a good play for us. Doesn’t happen very much.”
On if Chicago had the option to have a holder to attempt an onside kick after the safety: “Yeah, it’s a good question. So, post-safety situation, you don’t have to have your punter do it, but most people have their punter out there. The ball cannot be kicked off of the ground. So, it’s got to be kicked in the air. The only kind of exception to that would be what they call a dropkick. So, the ball’s touching the ground and immediately as it’s touching the ground it’s being hit. So, some people will drop it and as it’s touching the ground, they’re kicking the ball. The other options you have in that situation would be take the ball and just hit out of the air some type of onside kick or rolling kick. So, you see a number of different kicks. Some of them look like more conventional onside kicks than that one did, but no you can’t have the ball on the ground being held. It’s got to be dropped from your hand. It can touch the ground, but it has to be immediately struck thereafter to be considered a dropkick.”
On how difficult it is for a punter to utilize a dropkick or kick it out of the air to cause chaos: “Yeah, I think the biggest challenge on those onside kicks for the punter is actually kicking the ball slow enough that it just doesn’t get to the front line too fast. You’re kicking it out of the air, or you’re drop kicking it and a lot of times it’s going further down the field, faster than it is when it’s off the tee and you can kind of dink it. So, I would say that’s probably the biggest challenge I think when you’re on the kicking team for the punter to be punting the ball like that on a more traditional onside kick. Going straight up in the air is a pretty good option.”
On if he wishes onside kicks were a higher percentage play: “Well, I mean I think anything that – yeah, I mean I think any play that’s 50/50 is more exciting. And any time – I think the whole point of the League wanting there to be a chance for the game to still have to play out and not be out of control is obviously – it generates the TV revenue. People sit in there and watch the game until the very end because they think there’s still a chance. So, obviously that’s positive for the game.” |
